Part one of the interview may be read here.
|Acting opposite a puppet, under direction from Richard Haines|
Originally we weren't going to be that wild with the makeup, we were just going to be like leather punks. And then I think Lloyd saw something from somewhere, Japan maybe, and he decided we should have this crazy look. It wasn't Richard's idea to change the costumes, they sort of superimposed that on him. And that happened shortly after we were cast. I was actually cast without having to audition, but was used as part of the audition process to bring in other actors. Some of the actors dropped out when they found out they had to do something, they'd get cast ad then say "I'm not going to play that!" and they'd quit.
|Bad kids: reunited with Gary "Bozo" Schneider|
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|Matt Mitler in the 1986 slasher "The Mutilator"|
"Dick and Jane Drop Acid and Die" written up in
The Psychotronic Video Guide
A lot of great people came through, we also produced our own shows, we did variety nights and brought back a form of Vaudeville that the Lower East Side was actually sort-of famous for inventing back in the day. We sort of brought it back into the late 20th Century, we said that Surf Reality was "Vaudeville for the New Millenium." We also called it "Surf Reality's House of Urban Savages." We featured a lot of comedy, but nontraditional, we didn't do a lot of standup. It was comedy duos, and improv acts, strange comedic storytelling, musical comedy. Upright Citizens Brigade, the very first show they did in New York was at Surf Reality, and Amy Poehler was still part of the troupe at that time, well before she was a big star on Saturday Night Live. Jim Gaffigan used to produce a show at my place every Friday night at 10, and he went on to be in That 70s Show and other shows as well.
|Robert in 2000, photo by Hiroyuki Ito for The Village Voice|